Defrauding Not Our Sons
July 2, 2009 
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Listen to the recording of this horrified woman, and imagine if it were your wife and children. Do me a favor and play it for your pastor. Then look him straight in the eye and tell him that if he isn’t doing everything he can to keep our people safe, he can go penetrate himself with a blunt object. The gospel of Jesus Christ does not put the lives of white women and children at risk, but the 14th Amendment certainly does.
And so does Obamination, who “says the biblical command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ is as pertinent now as ever. The president said Friday that an entire community suffers when some members cannot pay their mortgages or find jobs. He called on Americans to work together to build a better future for everyone, including immigrants.” If the word “neighbor” means everyone in the world then the word is meaningless. And that’s the whole point of using it in this way.
Better jobs for everyone except white firemen, that is. So much for wise Latinas. We can now report that Sonia Sotomayor is even crazier than Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
“Enjoy it while you can, white folks. Because when Obama is done packing the court with Jews, homos, Hispanics and other minorities, you won’t see any more decisions like this one. In multiracial America, wanting the best and brightest, most competent firefighters is HATE.”
Any focus on white interests, even through politics, is being made illegal. But surprise, these whites who do not hide their opinions are being allowed to keep their jobs. Many thanks to the Almighty State for this gracious gift bestowed upon us piss-ants.
Brother Pat swings back to the Love side of the meter. California, with one out of every eight persons in the population, and with a GDP larger than Canada’s, is about to hit the wall. Whites are in the minority statewide, and in Los Angeles, “the most diverse human habitation in history,” trust is lower than anywhere else, according to Harvard professor Robert Putnam. Diversity is clearly our greatest weakness. And here’s the bad part: “Demographically, California is where America will be in 2040.”
A few days later, in another article, Buchanan notes that Hitler’s Darwinism led him to believe that “it would have been better for the world if the Muslims had won the eighth century battle of Tours, which stopped the Arabs’ advance into France. Had the Christians lost, [Hitler] reasoned, Germanic people would have acquired a more warlike creed and, because of their natural superiority, would have become the leaders of an Islamic empire.”
When the story of the HMS Bounty is told, the hero is invariably made out to be Fletcher Christian, and the abusive psychopath, William Bligh. But this has everything turned around, and the real story is more relevant than ever, given the white suicidal tendencies of our time and open borders. The crew lived for five months in Tahiti waiting for a thousand plants to mature. They had themselves tattooed like the natives, had a lot of sex with the natives, and Christian even “married” one of them. Leaving the island was too much to bear for the besotted crew, and so they mutinied. When Bligh pleaded with Christian to be reasonable, Christian exclaimed, “I am in hell, I am in hell!” Miraculously, Bligh and his loyalists survived. Without charts or compass, their small boat found England after a month and a half at sea. It’s one of the most amazing nautical stories ever to be told (the greatest of which is Shackleton’s).
The last connection to civilization was severed when the mutineers burned their boat in order to settle on Pitcairn Island with the kidnapped Tahitian women to “a life of racial and cultural miscegenation.” In less than a decade, they had almost all murdered each other, although Christian might have killed himself after realizing that the strange flesh for which he lusted destroyed his own soul.
In other words the utopia they imagined in their darkened hearts predictably turned into a living hell rather than the heaven they had envisioned. A sort of small scale, predictable, turn of events, the likes of which are now playing out on a grander scale throughout many Western nations…
And whereas around half of the men turned their back on their civilization and embraced the very same destructive behaviors we see about us today, it is important to remember that the other half stayed true and loyal. Cast adrift in an unfriendly ocean they demonstrated remarkable skill and courage (dealing with murderous natives and starvation) in their long journey back to Western civilization, back to home.
Lord, lead us back to safe harbor.
At least 40% of the under-twenty population of London is non-indigenous.
The Occidental Quarterly‘s “metapolitical project aims, thus, at putting in motion a movement—in thought, to start—that will lead to the eventual founding of a white ethnostate and, with it, a restoration of the white man’s rightful place in the world—and I don’t mean this in any Hollywood Nazi sense, but rather in terms of a people’s national right to retain the ownership and control of their own lands.”
Why you should join the C of CC. Some of the best folks we know, all in one room.
Science Daily discovers the obvious: Most white people favor members of their own race.
Well, there’s science and then there’s “science.” Such as when primates, who were not human at all, are called “the first Europeans” and cannibals.
A 26-year-old mother in Winnipeg, Canada, is trying to regain custody of her children after her daughter came to school with a swastika painted in magic marker on her wrist. Manitoba Family Services is seeking permanent custody of the children alleging that the political views of their parents may cause them emotional harm. “This case is a scandal,” says Paul Fromm, Director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression. “I call this state kidnapping of the children of dissidents. Absent serious physical abuse, parents have the right to have and raise their children. The young mother is penniless and can no longer afford legal counsel. Her supporters provided her with bus fare to return to Winnipeg to fight for custody of her children.”
Preventive incarceration of indeterminate duration, for what Phillip K. Dick called pre-crime. Science fiction meets real life.
More saltire racism. An employee of the National Library of Scotland decorated his desk with three flags and a lion rampart, and was warned that such enthusiasm is “racist” because it could “intimidate non-Scottish colleagues.” But of course, not a single white person, Scottish or not, would ever be offended by such displays. The only people who would ever be offended are non-whites who come to Scotland and make war against the idea that Scotland is for the Scottish. If anyone is “racist,” it is these people. But somehow, they get all the rights and the blood-born get none. This would be the equivalent of me going to Japan and deciding that the rising sun emblem makes me feel less of a person. I would deserve to be sent to the looney bin.
Tea is racist. Blacks will never join a protest that endangers the mandated taxes that allow the proliferation of their race, at the expense of ours.
Can I interest you in a racist tissue container? Collector’s item!
The word “niggardly” is racist. Never use “niggardly” and “black hole” in the same sentence.
Blackface is racist too, but hermaphrodite/pederast Michael Jackson donned permanent whiteface and was considered merely “troubled.”
Little Black Sambots are racist. “Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact hatchbacks, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They’re forced to acknowledge that they can’t read. One has a gold tooth.”
Hate crime charges are for white people. Don’t believe it? Here’s proof from the latest hearing on the new Hate Crime Act. “[Attorney General] Holder made it clear that if a white Christian male, including a serviceman or police officer, was the victim of a violent hate crime by any minority he would have to find redress from traditional law. He could not avail himself of the triple penalties and rapid government/justice system response given a protected minority.” Whites are already in the minority in many places, such as the state of California, but will never be a “protected” minority, because protecting whites is not the purpose of the law. Our forefathers rebelled against governments that no longer served their interests.
And sure enough, Holder is using the James von Brunn shooting as the reason to expedite this legislation—as though murder is not already illegal.
Talk radio is racist, of course, but is also “terrorism.”
The SPLC is called a “terrific organization” by the fag on “fair and balanced” Fox News.
Porky Beirich expounds on musical theory.
“Lord of the Dance is an exhibition of perfection of harmony and choreography. It also consists of white people performing exquisite and complex moves in absolute perfect precision.” Black people hate this.
Roll your mouse over this image to see how ads are Photoshopped to promote multiracialism and miscegenation. This is why mulattoes are in high demand, and the more indiscernible the heritage the better.
Crazy Uncle Tom Fleming continues his mad quest for respectability by issuing a new conservative creed. As you can see, he does everything he can to pretend that race is inconsequential. But if there is one thing we’ve learned in modern history, it is that it is impossible to build a structure of subsidiarity without a foundation of race and ethnicity. You can talk to your heart’s content about the importance of tradition, community, and the sacred, and we will agree with you. But if you believe these things can be secured without exclusive bonds of blood, we will refer you to a more succinct creed.
The soul of man resides in the blood.
I think the event that indicated Christian Europe was no more took place in the 1960s when Pope John XXIII stated he had “no feeling of hatred, only loving charity and forgiveness” for the Congolese barbarians who tortured, mutilated, and killed nineteen missionary priests, and then raped, tortured, and killed the missionary nuns. If a people stand by and let such a thing happen to their own kind, can they be called Christian? Can they even be called human? No, they can’t. They must be called what they have become: soulless robots who have banished the Man of Sorrows and replaced Him with the sterile ratiocinations of their own minds. Pope John didn’t see actual white people being tortured and murdered, he saw in the white victims mere abstractions whose deaths gave him a chance for a P.R. coup: “I can appear saintly if I forgive their enemies.” And he didn’t see, in his mind’s eye, hideous beasts straight from hell, when he thought about the Congolese natives who murdered the whites. He saw adoring noble savages who would fall down and worship him because of his great beneficence.
“A European is not different from a pagan because the pagan has bloody sacrifices and the European uses his mind; the European differs from the pagan because he believes that God’s spirit dwells in the blood and not in nature.”
Billy Graham is a lying, despicable coward.
Jews have a rule that they number their kin according to who was born of a Jewish mother. Britain now considers this to be racial, not religious, criteria for Jewish school membership, and hence illegal.
“The Babylonian Talmud in tractate Sanhedrin specifies that anyone who disparages a Talmudist is a heretic (“apikorus“)… Criticism of a Talmudist (“Bizuy Talmedei Chachomim“) is a terrible crime in Orthodox Judaism, punishable by destruction of the heretic’s reputation, imprisonment, flogging, ritual curses, book-burning and in some cases, death.”
According to the satanic Talmud, “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day,” and subhuman until it is born (Yevamot 69b). Compare to Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee…”
Whites are expected to honor “precedent” in constitutional law, on abortion for example, but the Talmud instructs Jews to make their own interests a higher priority than law.
As in this case, for example, where a Jew pederast is avoiding punishment.
Israel is not so much a country as an extortion scam.
The government of Israel has now committed an act of piracy.
There are only three countries in the world more violent than Israel, and two of those are being occupied by the American Empire on behalf of Israel. I just can’t understand why people hate Jews.
Jews oppose recognition of the Ukrainian holocaust. It’s easy to see why.
So let me get this straight. The Nazis were close to sending a radar-resistant jet into production, many decades before Americans learned how, but their grand attempt to exterminate the Jews of Europe was so inept and inefficient that they tried to asphyxiate their victims with diesel fumes? It’s very doubtful that it would have taken until 1969 to reach the moon if Germany had won the war, but Germans apparently lost their marbles when it came to genocide and tried to spend as much money as possible on the endeavor. Of course, I’m not accusing Jews of lying. They follow the law of Moses and would never think of lying about such things.
After lying about his great uncle liberating Buchenwald and saying that Judaism has “extraordinary moral traditions” (like raping toddlers), Obama declares that there will be “no patience” for those who exercise free speech rights to deny the Holohoax.
And now, just as we expected, he’s going to flush 73 million white dollars down the toilet called Zimbabwe. “There was a time when Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa. And it continues to have enormous potential,” Obama said. “It has gone through a very dark and difficult period politically.” By “dark and difficult,” he means that all white people have been murdered or run off. This is not a holocaust, of course, because whites are not Jews. And which country ever run by Negroes has not been forever mired in a “dark and difficult period”? There’s a name for creatures who live on the richest soil in the world and don’t grow a thing for themselves. I believe we call them animals.
A monkey urinates on the president of Zambia. But enough about Eddie Murphy’s personal life.
Here’s a note from an Engrishman who has had all he can take of diversity and baggy pants:
This is one of the most amazing and appalling Youtube videos we’ve ever seen, and it is sure to be studied by zoologists for years. The Louisiana legislature decided to reenact a scene from The Birth of a Nation and invited Jiggy McBoo, in his new pair of manpants, to inspire them with Negro artistry. When it’s over, instead of demanding to know who let the diversity in, the white speaker of the house makes a lame joke to break the awkward tension. (Inspirational lyrics in the sidebar.)
“If 25% of South African black males admit to being rapists, what’s the real number like?” And when will Christians be honest and admit that apartheid was simply the civilized keeping the savages at bay?
The least favorite holiday for black people.
How much money do you think it would take to pay all the black girls in the world not to get pregnant? This is the kind of foolishness that only white do-gooders could dream up.
Black women now have larger waists than men. This has helped lead to another black achievement, making Mississippi and Alabama the top two states in the country.
Morgan Freeman, who plays the Magical Negro and Numinous Negro in his acting roles (scoring numerous mentions on Wikipedia), and who hounded a Mississippi school until it finally hosted a miscegenated prom, has allegedly been copulating for 10 years with his step-granddaughter, whom he raised in his home from the time she was a toddler. “What a sick, sick pervert. It just goes to show what kind of people push interracial dating and marriage—perverts and Judeo-Christians.”
Richard Nixon said this the day after abortion was made legal: “There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white, or a rape.” Leaving aside the question of abortion itself, this quote is fascinating. A president, within our lifetime, knew that abortion “breaks the family,” but since he believed it was permissible to kill mulattoes, it means that he did not consider an interracial “family” to be a family at all, any more than a rapist is the husband of his victim. Within our lifetimes, what the Church now considers “a positive good” to be “celebrated” (in the words of John Piper) was horrific. That which is pure and noble has not changed, but Christians certainly have.
See what passes for sermon material in “churches” these days. One could borrow from Tom Wolfe’s “radical chic” (think of posters of Che Guevara) and call this “nigger chic.”
Negroes call for martial law to stem the tide of violence from Negroes. Can anything less than a police state bring order to any place inhabited by a large number of blacks?
Watch as every spearchucker on this bus refuses to intervene in a racial assault, and you’ll see everything you need to know about a groid’s respect for the rule of law. Here’s another example among hundreds. Now watch how white men react. So explain to me again why Rosa Parks should be remembered. Would there have been intervention on Flight 93 on 9/11 if the passengers had all been buh-boolies?
We don’t truck with feminists, but if suffrage is needed to offset the electoral strength of savages, as Rebecca Latimer Felton, the first female senator, believed, then a racial feminism is something we could support. Felton also believed that prohibition was necessary to prevent black-on-white crime. These are examples where principle is less important than survival. But for the very same reason, Felton has been purged from the history books. Her story proves that present-day feminism is just a front for multiracialism. This pioneer on behalf of women must be flushed down the memory hole because of her old-fashioned views on race. Which is more important, unequal pay or extinction?
Indeed, the need to control Negro rapists played a major role in her most controversial advocacy: lynching as a preventative to antisocial African actions. In one of her articles she flatly stated that so long as Negro crime continued, lynching must continue. In a speech before the State Agricultural Society in 1897, she explained that women left alone in isolated farm houses faced a grave danger from roving Negro rapists and murderers. The men of Georgia, she explained, needed to protect their wives and daughters. Since religion and law could not put a stop to this behavior, then the White men must lynch these “ravening beasts a thousand times a week if necessary” (Talmadge, p. 114; also Atlanta Journal August 12, 1897).
This widely reported speech stirred the Holy North to righteous rage at the bestial South. Mrs. Felton began to engage in a newspaper war with the Boston Transcript in her usual direct and forceful language. Her biographer summarized her response as follows:
Bluntly she charged the Northern newspapers with encouraging those crimes that made lynching necessary. Their maudlin sympathy for the Southern Negro had made him restless and unruly. If Boston wanted mixed marriages, that was its business but it might as well understand that in the South a Negro who laid hands on a white woman was going to die. Of course, she had rather see the brute hanged legally, but if he confessed to a mob, then he stood condemned by civilization, with the possible exception of Boston. (Talmadge, p. 114)
One baptist preacher denounced Felton’s love for her people as “humanity verging toward the animal and the fiend,” and she fired back at the “slick-haired, slick-tongued Pecksniffian blatherskite.”
When a negro in Georgia murdered a white farmer and then raped his wife next to his corpse, Felton urged the posse to shoot him dead rather than capture him, to spare the raped woman the indignity of testifying against him in court. He was captured, but the next day a mob pulled him from the jail, Leo Frank-style, emasculated him, and burned him alive. “The North exploded. Most Southern papers did not comment, nor did Mrs. Felton.”
She did not care one whit for the accolades of her enemies. She never compromised with the enemies of her people.
And here we are, in the year 2009.
Federal Bureau of Investigation statistics show that about 100 white women are raped by black men each day. The number of Black women raped by white men in an entire year can be counted on the fingers and toes of one person. “Wildings” are simply accepted as justifiable expressions of black “rage.” Instead of being condemned, understanding is urged on behalf of the poor, misunderstood “youths” who behave just as their ancestors did a century or more ago.
Dear-bought and clear, a thousand year,
Our fathers’ title runs.
Make we likewise their sacrifice,
Defrauding not our sons.
Canon employees are not allowed to sit down, but there must be worse jobs.
Tattooed and pierced freaks who are beginning to feel like conformists have a new way to express themselves—as bagelheads. There could be a business opportunity here for Jews.
Don’t get that college degree.
Some Christians like to elevate their projects to the level of essential doctrine and practice for everyone else. I’m not referring to the things that really are essential, but rather, to things like keeping families seated together throughout a church service, having as many children as physically possible like Michelle Duggar, never allowing girls to leave home unless they’re married, and never allowing them to be paid unless they’re serving their own fathers, etc. These might or might not be good ideas, depending on the circumstances, but white people are naturally inclined to climb aboard “movements,” and Jews like Howard and Doug Phillips are more than happy to take their money from them.
As you may know, Edgar Steele, the author of Defensive Racism, belongs to Howard’s Constitution Party and tried to run for governor of Idaho, but Howard dispatched the black chairman of the party to kick Steele out. People have called in to Steele’s Nickle Rant show recently to tell of how they approached Chuck Baldwin to ask why this happened. Baldwin feigns ignorance in every case, even though he is fully informed, because he is just as slippery as the other men in charge. Baldwin never misses an opportunity to change the subject when the white race is on the line.
Voddie Baucham is another black mascot who is making the rounds among the supporters of these enterprises. Here he defends himself against charges that he associates with Kinists. That’s pretty funny, we have to admit.
Doug Phillips asks, “Have you taken a look at homeschool families lately? We are some of the most ethnically diverse, so-called racially diverse families, I’ve seen… You can find families that are ‘white’, ‘yellow’, ‘brown’, and ‘black.’ One of the most notable distinctives of this special work of God is the growing number of families adopting children of diverse melanin count and ethnic background. There is a reason for this—these families love life, they love children—lots of children, and all different types of children.” Phillips reveals his cluelessness when he laments that we are in the midst of “a generation of rudderless boys, rudderless men, men who lack perspective. They are individual radicals living for themselves with no sense of family, no sense of posterity, no sense of ancestry, no sense of destiny. They do not know who their fathers were, they are not concerned about who their grandchildren are, and they don’t know how to define themselves other than by the experience of the moment.” Well, good luck in teaching those adopted niglets a sense of ancestry.
Here are some folks who have gotten an early start to the next Vision Forum conference:
Here are some ads that we propose be restored for the Vision Forum catalog:
And of course, here’s an absolute necessity for pubescent young patriarchs:
The top prize winner at Doug Phillips’s film festival:
Okay, enough already. There were just a few things we had to get off our chest wig, and now we feel much better.
Hohenzollern,
What vulgar vitriol and blasphemies?
“…religion that has visited such misery and destruction upon our people has indeed finally lost its hold and power over the European Mind and will soon (historically speaking) breathe its last, never to rise again.”
“…still insist on living in a world that is long past and gone for good.”
“…They can put it down. If they woke up tomorrow as non-Christians, how would their lives be different in any substantial way? The wouldn’t.”
“…Kinists certainly don’t hesitate to take swipes at non-believers in the magical, resurrecting Jew-god they worship (who as a divine yet corporeal being resides we know not where -in another dimension, hovering out in the deep reaches of our galaxy?”
To refresh your mind, the above were some of your filthy vitriol and blasphemous comments. You show an extreme hatred of Christianity like every anti-theist I have encountered. Something I would expect from someone brainwashed at the Stalinist Youth Propaganda Camps (the so-called public schools). Your above statements also demonstrate a strong delusion about a supposed soon collapse of Christianity. What will collapse is this immoral secular Federal Politburo and the secular degenerate society in America.
I am amused that you are advertising (you provided a link) a book by a woman who earns a “living” by peddling false, recycled copycat theories. I see that you have been deceived to accept her nonsense. Christians have refuted over and over again the atheistic fantasies and delusions about a purported link between the God-breathed New Testament Scriptures and the fairy tales of the pagans. There is absolutely no link between Jesus Christ and the false pagan gods. Evidently, you’re another follower of “Acharya S” and her pseudo-scholarship. According to her first conspiratorial book, Christianity was invented by Jews and pagan Masons to “serve as a one-world religion for the Roman Empire. This religion would be a collage of all of the other world religions and combined with astrology.” http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering-skeptics/answering-acharya-s/a-refutation-of-archary-ss-book-the-christ-conspiracy-pt-1.html.
Ha! Ha! Ha! This woman is no ground-breaking scholar! She is a militant atheist propagandist who has worked for at least one atheist organization (which was founded by a anti-Christ Jew named Paul Kurtz). Pushing this rubbish in a Christian Kinist blog will accomplish nothing for your erroneous atheistic assumptions.
Atheism is irrational and worthless because, among many other errors, it appeals to authority, it is self-contradictory, begs the question, and it is spiritually and morally bankrupt. Atheism cannot account for the laws of logic, moral Law, and other immaterial, invariant, and universal laws and concepts. Atheism is highly arbitrary in many of its practices. In an atheist universe, its “Different strokes for different folks”. So who cares if a person murders another person in an Atheistic world. For the values that the murderer has chosen for himself are not contrary with his actions. If naturalism and scientism are true, there is no moral outrage if one bag of protoplasm “murders” another bag of protoplasm. In a godless universe, there isn’t a transcendent holy Law which reflects the will of a transcendent, eternal, holy God who determines good and evil. As a result of its moral blindness, Atheism is a great danger to all of mankind. As the Christian brethren know, Atheistic Communism slaughtered 100,000,000 people (many of them professing Christians) in the 20th Century alone! What barbarism! Not to mention, 30,000,000 others who died as a result of the wars that Atheistic Communism caused. Further, the fairy tale of atheism teaches that all of reality (and of course atheists differ on what reality is) came about from nothing! Ha! Ha! Ha! Atheism is an absurd superstition masquerading as the standard bearer of freedom, intellectualism, and science. No wonder the Scripture teaches: “The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.”
Well, I will stop here. The admin doesnt want this blog to be turned into a Christian vs. irrational Atheists debate site.
No, Fr John. I would hope my remarks do not go anywhere near R Orthodox Church. I am not saying “that the people who became Russian Orthodox…are ethnically related to those of the likes of the ADL, the JDL…”
I think someone would have to work very hard to construe my statement in this way.
I was speaking ethnographically about THAT area of the Caucasus that is quite frankly a mine field. What knowledge I have in the matter comes from Benjamin Freedman’s speech where he touches very briefly upon the ethnic origin of the Khazarim. He describes them as a Finno Turkish people and delineates their empire at the height of its power as encompassing S Russia, E Ukraine in E Europe, Georgia, the Crimea also in E Europe. From my own studies I remember the term Rus itself derives from the Finnish language. The pagan Finnish rune singers fascinated J.R.R. Tolkien and he wrote a lot of monographs on it.
Among the Khazarim, there are Jews, Muslims and Christians. And I think I have seen the Lord’s Prayer in that language on the net.
I think it is popularly known that there are Black Russians of Southern Russia and White Russians or Belarus. As far as I know, among the Belarus in Eastern Europe there are Roman Catholics and Catholics of the Uniate Rite in Latvia, Lithuiannia, Estonia, there are the Russian Orthodox of Russia, of course and the Ukrainian Orthodox and Uniate Rite Catholics of the Ukraine. And there were also Roman Catholics in Russia. Fr Pranitis who translated the Talmud into Latin was martyred during the Bolshevik Revolution.
I think the most beautiful Christian art in the entire world come from the Kievan schools: Ukranian Orthodox and Catholic Uniate.
I think that the Franciscan accounts of their mission to Khazaria makes for fascinating reading and some amazing glimpses of that pagan culture. By all accounts the Franciscans wasted their time, as the Khazarian Khagan was not interested in discussing religion or spiritual matters. Most of his subjects were Jewish, but he himself was a pagan who worshipped the devil as the devil. And he was married to about 10 Jewesses. In this amazing scene from the Franciscan accounts you have the Khagan sitting there in his tent telling the Franciscan friars about all his personal woes. It is really very funny. I mean here is a man who has no need for the ‘angel of light’ pose of satan, he worships Satan as the devil and his biggest problem is his marital relations with the Jewesses who boss him around.
I agree with you about the novus ordo sect currently in occupation of the Roman Catholic infrastructure worldwide and the modern anti-papacy. The Chair of Peter was overthrown in Rome in 1958. The Roman Catholic Church in communion with the true papacy – the Successors of Pope Gregory XVII – is the Church in Eclipse. I am a member of that communion. I think it is alarming that anti-pope Benedict and Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople are working toward ecumenical relations. As far as I am concerned, I hope God blesses and keeps the Orthodox (and all the Protestants for that matter) as far away from Benedict as possible. And I am sure he will be back in the U.S. of A. touting the Noachide laws before you can say apostate. He is very busy bee is that Benedict with all his rabbi pals in the Sanhedrin.
“It is by reason of the type of blasephmous denigrations of the Lord Jesus Christ you are wont to state on this blog, that the Prince of the Host, St Michael, prostrated himself upon the earth at the Serra da Aire in 1916 and taught the shepherd children of the Serra (all under the age of 12 yrs) to console their God by praying as he asked:
Holy, Holy, Holy. Most Holy Trinity Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ present in all the tabernacles of the earth in reparation for the sacrileges, outrages and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And through the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of you the conversion of poor sinners.
And yes, these completely unschooled children aged 11, 9 and 7 were able to learn this prayer and repeat it for their parish priest, who was astounded. As indeed was the entire Catholic world, for no matter how you look at it – it is theologically perfect, as are all the prayers of the Angels – only a few of which we know from the Bible.
Blaspheme our Lord again, Hohenzollern, and I guarantee….”
Uh huh. Right. Ok, then…moving right along…
Oscar,
First of all, I’m not an atheist. Second of all, yes I do find that D.M. Murdock aka Acharya S makes some very compelling observations, but she is far from the first or only free-thinker to shine a glaring spotlight on the falsity of Christian claims. Ha! ha! ha! all you like but, despite your strident assertions, never has the Mythicist case been refuted. Ever. Because it is irrefutable.
What we seem to be dealing with here is in all probability the biggest case of Stockholm Syndrome ever recorded. I understand that you naturally don’t LIKE many of the things I’ve said, but I haven’t used foul language or “spoken against” any particular figure within your religious mythos, other than to point out that it, and they, are largely just that- mythical and allegorical as opposed to concretely historical.
I guess it’s ok with people like you if people like me reject the idea that the Bible is the literally-true Word of God, as long as we shut up and never mention it, and for a long time that’s how it worked, because if we did we ran the real risk of being completely ostracized, if we were lucky, or tortured and executed if we weren’t. But those days are over and they’re not coming back. You can’t just hide out in your own little, insular world and expect not to be confronted with the truth anymore, so for the sake of your own blood-pressure, you should try to adjust to the times, for they are a changin’.
Besides, it’s you guys who tell the rest of us that if we don’t believe in your religion we’re condemned to burn in Hell for eternity, so shouldn’t we really find that upsetting? Shouldn’t we be the ones making charges of vulgarity, blasphemy etc.? You’ve got everything all out of whack. The burden of proof isn’t on the non-religious, it’s on y’all. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence or arguments, at the least. None is forthcoming. Christians are amusing because if you, through use of your mental faculties and critical reasoning, conclude they’re peddling the Truth and adopt their religion, then you’re a swell guy, but God help you if you find the product to be riddled with holes and fatally flawed.
“As far as I am concerned, I hope God blesses and keeps the Orthodox (and all the Protestants for that matter) as far away from Benedict as possible. And I am sure he will be back in the U.S. of A. touting the Noachide laws before you can say apostate. He is very busy bee is that Benedict with all his rabbi pals in the Sanhedrin.”
I would say we’re on the same track….
Hohenzollern,
Once again, (whatever your ethnicity) please learn what Dante called the ‘virtous paganism’ of your European ancestors. Hel was the ‘goddess’ of the cauldron of impious souls which were consigned to the flames. All virtuous pagans fear with salutory fear – the cauldron of Hel.
Gehenna which the Christians translated as the Hell of Spiritual fire (after our Lord’s parable) is the existence of those who refuse to know God the Creator or ackowledge Christ – the Son of God and Son of man in his Evangel, in the faith He established in His Church and refuse the Holy Spirit.
In the Judgement, these poor souls will hear the Divine sentence: “Depart from Me.” They will hear these dread words from the One by Whom and for Whom all things exist. The torment of the fires of that existence to which they depart is for the fallen Angels who have rejected and hated our Lord to His face; it is for souls who have rejected the sacrifice of our Lord in his Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity for their sins; it is for the souls who have refused the Divine call, the Divine love, the Divine desire, yet is actually a mercy oblating the souls’ anguish at the Divine rejection whch ratifies their own choice.
Rejection and Heresy are choices of the human will. These things have no existence in their own right.
When our Lady at Fatima opened her hands, she showed to the three shepherd children of the Serra the vision of the Eschaton or Last Things for the last times of the world which would scoff at the holy faith. One of the things she showed them is the Hell of Fire. She said: “You have seen Hell were the souls of poor sinners go. It is to prevent them that our Lord desires to establish upon earth the devotion to my Immaculate Heart” – the sanctuary of faith when the Church would be in Eclipse; when the sacramental life of the Church would be extinguished.
Please get a hold of this, Hohenzollern. This is the Heart of the God Bearer which kept “all these things and pondered them.” This is the Heart which magnifies our Lord above all – above all creation and above all Angels. This is the refuge and sanctuary which our Lord has opened for us in the last times of the world – when the ordinary means of grace that our Lord positively wills for his Church is extinguished because of the power of anti-Christ. I refer specifically to the Most Blessed Sacrament of the altar which is denied to most.
As I have said in many posts – the paganism of the Europeans was that good and fertile ground which could yield fruit a hundred fold. That we, the Europeans, became the Christ bearing race, the Christopher, as nation after European nation converted to the Evangel; it is not of us – lest any should boast. It was a work of Grace upon that good and fertile ground of European paganism. It was a work of Grace for those upon whom the Europeans would labour and expend for the sake of the Evangel – those nations whose culture was much harder, more stoney and barren than ours.
The Sacred Heart of our Lord desires these nations with great desire. And we, Europeans, are the ones who must labour for them even in the last times of the world.
“When our Lady at Fatima opened her hands,….
The Sacred Heart of our Lord desires these nations with great desire….
That we, the Europeans, became the Christ bearing race, the Christopher, as nation after European nation converted to the Evangel; it is not of us – lest any should boast. It was a work of Grace upon that good and fertile ground of European paganism……”
Here, Lynda, is where we DO part ways. First off, as I have noted of a recent blogger whose posts I once enjoyed greatly, http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/speaking-the-truth-in-love/
‘May I point out that RC Dogma, martyrology, and philosophy are totally against the Orthodox phronema? (as well as the Calvinist/Protestant Weltanschauung!) May I point out that numberless synods, Patriarchs, Bishops, Priests, Canons, and local synods have joined the anathemas against the Roman Church, over the CENTURIES?
As I noted from an excellent article over at http://www.orthodoxinfo.com, “Believing, as we do, that the Orthodox Church Is the Church, wherein is to be found the fullness of the Catholic Faith—that is, the Apostolic Faith in all its purity and wholeness—there can be no question of accepting anything contrary to Orthodox teaching and practice. This must immediately render suspect any shrine or apparition involving the dogma of the Immaculate Conception or encouraging the un-Orthodox cult of devotion to parts of the body—the hearts of Jesus and Mary. (In seventeenth century France, there had even been devotion to the Virgin’s left foot and the soles of her shoes.)” – http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/marian_apparitions.aspx?print=ok
I will not belabor that point, except to note for our esteemed Admin, that the reason this writer sees the rise of protestant excess in ‘charismania’ alongside of the various ‘Marian apparitions’ in Roman Catholi-’schim’, is that it is intimately tied to…. yes; The filioque.
‘Nothing like this happened in the East. Rooted soundly and soberly in the solid theology of Orthodoxy, and spiritually nourished by a vernacular liturgy, the Lord’s Mother fitted naturally into her rightful place in a perfectly balanced and harmonious whole. The Western distortion of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity resulting from the Filioque with its (almost unintentional) down-grading of the Holy Spirit…’
As to the last comment you made, Lynda, I strenuously disagree. Coming as you do, (from a Thomistic bent) the concept of ‘free will’ is so strong, as to render any predestinating act of God superfluous- which is, of course, unbiblical. But, (as a former Calvinist) I clearly see the conversion of the White Race of Europe to be THE fulfillment of that phrase in St. Paul’s writings, wherein he says, “According as he hath chosen US in him before the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, that WE should be holy and without blame before him in love; having PREDESTINATED US unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the Good Pleasure of HIS will.” [Eph. 1:4ff.]
A post sent to me some time back I think will put to rest any attempts to find an ‘all men’ in that phrase ‘adoption as sons.’
http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/the-heresy-of-adoption/
Sincerely, Lynda, the Church of Rome’s errors go much further back than Vatican II. It only took me twenty years to figure it out. I’m just passing on what I have found, FYI.
Okay, let’s keep the comment text to a minimum and not get into doctrinal fights. That’s what fellowship dinners are for. The comments should be brief and based on one or more of the topics discussed in the post above.
Fr John,
The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church parted company at the Council of Florence. It is pointless to reiterate here the anathemas that these two have leveled at each ofther over the centuries.
I do not accept that Orthodoxy has the ‘fullness of the Catholic faith.” In the above post, as an Orthodox, you again deny on this website our Lord’s great commission (the Catholic Mark): “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you” (Mathew 28:18-20. This passage does not refer to White Europeans exclusively as you would have us to believe – in that only Whites may receive adoption as ‘sons’ – quoting Eph 1:4 in support of your error.
Denying Our Lord’s words and twisting them in support of this racially supremacist position is heresy. And I think this does concern those who are reading these posts and comments and writing here.
The Roman Catholic doctrine on the Sacred Heart of Our Lord (his Kingship) and the Immaculate Heart of Our Lady (the Arc of His Covenant) are not idolatries of body parts. A statement like that takes not thought of either scripture and Patristics – especially the writings of the Fathers on Our Lord as the Last Adam (1 Cor 15:45-50). These same Fathers also discoursed most eloquently upon our Lady as the New Eve in her role as God Bearer and mother of the members of Christ. This is the new creation of the God-man race – those from all nations who would receive the Evangel, be born of baptism and of Spirit, commune in the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.
The writings of the Fathers (venerated by both Christian East and West) together with scripture as well as events in the lives of saints are the foundations of these doctrines of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
This is not a devotion to ‘body parts’. This is a devotion to Our Lord’s Kingship. As for the Immaculate, the scroll of the Apocalypse is to be read as a continuous writing front and back. Therefore the following is to be read without chapter breaks:
“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun..”
These passages equate the Arc of the Covenant in heaven with the Woman clothed with the sun.
When this portent was revealed upon earth to the Church in time – it was not the Church that reported it, it was the secular press. The event that the Church would later investigate and declare ‘Signum Magnum’ was reported to the world by the Masonic, secular press on page one – all national papers in Lisbon Oct 13 – 14, 1917. This is matter of historical record. Even the New York Times reported this event – on the last page after the baseball scores.
The Church, however, maintained a very careful prudence and reserve about it for years and conducted a most thorough investigation.
On your website, The White Christ you have many times quoted Fr Seraphim Rose. “In the end all churches will serve antichrist.” However, you fail to report any plan the Almighty who knows the end from the beginning might actually have for the Christian faithful to persevere in the saving faith when all the churches serve antichrist, when sacramental life of the Church is extinguished, when the oblation and the holy sacrifice are trampled, when the ordinary means of grace for salvation are either extinguished or highly compromised by the Great Apostasy and confusion reigns supreme.
For those who know Catholic doctrine, however, we know that Divine Providence did not fail to make provision for the Christian faithful during the ‘hour of the power of darkness’. A refuge was prepared from the beginning. And that refuge is the Arc of the Covenant, the Woman clothed with the sun of Apoc 12:1.
At Fatima, the Lord worked a miracle of the sun that was reported internationally in order to ratify the testament of the Woman Clothed with the Sun, a testament that would be for the time when the Church would be in eclipse [when 'all churches would serve antichrist']. At that time, Our Lady declared to the faithful through the children of the Serra that Our Lord had opened to the faithful the sanctuary of devotion to her Immaculate Heart. At this time, Our Lord himself grants to the faithful the sublime refuge in the Arc of His Covenant, in the Immaculate Heart magnifying our Lord above all (Luke 1:46) and pondering the mysteries of his Incarnation in her Heart – the mysteries of faith. (Luke 2:19)
You might think this is a stupid picture, Fr John, but your dismissal of our Lord’s great and public miracle of the sun and your denigration of our Lady’s Immaculate Heart hinders those who are seeking to persevere in the holy faith (even in whatever remnants they have been able to salvage) at the time of the Great Apostasy.
The Church is in eclipse. The orthodox have no plan for anyone at this time except to keep harping on all the ‘anti Romanist’ and ‘anti-papist’ cannards.
Admin- do you not agree that doctrine is irrevocably tied to philosophy… or in the words of the pre-schism Church, ‘lex orandi, lex credendi’?
I am merely pointing out that the West’s rationalist, filioquist philosophy is at the root of ALL the subsequent problems the West is suffering from…..
And you relegate it to ‘doctrinal fights.’ If you told Lynda not to mention the Sacred Heart, Fatima, or Thomistic philosophy at the same time as you tell me to ‘cool my jets’ I could believe you more whole-heartedly.
But if foolhardiness is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, in the realms of philosophy, don’t you think we’ve given filioquist/Enlightenment/Thomist thought, more than ample time to prove its’ validity???
I’m saying that both of you need to cool it. No one wants to see the words “filioquist” or “Fatima” again. These could be very interesting subjects, I’m sure, but they have nothing to do with what is being put up for discussion here. More importantly, we’re not going to sort out thousands of years of Christian disputes on this humble blog; although if we did, we would all be famous. Hmm, I’m thinking it over. No, we just can’t do it.